[ngw] NetWare 5.1 & GW Pager Gateway (4.1 v2)

E-Mail Administrator EMAIL at co.pierce.wa.us
Mon Dec 24 21:55:48 UTC 2001


I sure wish there was a good replacement for the pager gateway.  We prefer to use our own modems rather than relying on paging via the internet.  Everyone knows the internet is notoriously unreliable which is why I'm staying away from using the GWIA to handle our paging.  When you've got people like the Sheriff's Department and Emergency Management depending on pages getting through, the only reliable mechanism is a local modem.

Of course, our users would like the paging feature enhanced from what it is now (like - a page sent to alert a user of an upcoming appointment would automatically be retracted if the appointment is rescheduled/retracted).

Rochelle

>>> tvissoc at scitexdpi.com 12/10/2001 2:42:20 pm >>>
It won't run at all on Win2K.  Only supposed to run on 95.  Like you
said, if you want to wait 5 min for the app to load and 30 seconds
between mouse clicks, it ain't bad.

I'm entertaining the idea of developing my own replacement to this
gateway.

Tony

>>> EMAIL at co.pierce.wa.us 12/10/01 04:40PM >>>
Thanks much David!  I was beginning to think that I was the only one
still running the pager gateway.

The server the pager gateway runs on is strictly a gateway server (no
users allowed), and hosts the MTA for the secondary domain the pager
gateway is in, so I shouldn't have problems with disconnects.

I know what you mean about admin.  I do manage to run it on my Windows
NT workstation.  I just have to be very very patient 'cause it is
excrutiatingly slow.  It didn't seem to do too badly on Windows 95
though.  Can't imagine what I'll do if we ever go to all Windows 2000
though.

Thanks again!

Rochelle

>>> DEGerisch at co.tulare.ca.us 12/10/2001 1:25:56 pm >>>
We have it running.  Sending 60 - 80 pages a day through it.  It was
causing us grief when the same server was running as our DHCP server -
both services are somewhat 'real-time' sensitive, and did not play well
together.  The Admin program to set the thing up does not play well with
Windows newer than Windows 3.  It seems to go into some loop that uses
95% of the available CPU.  But if you run it on Win 3, it is fine.  I
take screen shots of the various settings pages whenever we make changes
- just to be on the same side should I have to rebuild from scratch.

I did find and install some patches that (I believe) I found out on the
developer.novell.com site.

The only funky thing we have to watch for, is if it loses connection to
the domain server.  If it does, it will attempt to reconnect, but it
won't disconnect the last connection it made.  So the number of logged
in users starts to climb.  Even though those users don't work at
anything, they are consumers of resources.  So if we see this happening,
we have to shutdown the pager gateway and start it back up again.  The
massive quantity of logged in users will start disconnecting themselves,
and eventually things will return to normal.

Sure, it is a bad thing to overload the server like this - but look at
the fun side of it: take a screen shot when it is overloaded, and the
next time a Microsoft rep comes by, show him the picture of your NetWare
Console Monitor where Current Connections = 25,000 +

Then ask him if *his* servers can handle 25,000 simultaneous
connections. <evil grin>

David Gerisch, Senior Network Specialist
A.C.S. / Tulare County Data Processing
www.acs-inc.com 
www.co.tulare.ca.us 

>>> EMAIL at co.pierce.wa.us 11-19-2001 1:27:23 PM >>>
Any brave souls out there still using the GroupWise pager gateway?  Got
it running on NetWare 5.1?  Any particular tricks to making this
scenario work?  I haven't tried this yet but am wondering if anyone else
has been successful so I know what to expect.

(Yes, Morris, I know that pager gateway is no longer supported.  But,
you know, look at how stable it has been - it's been working like a
champ in our environment for years and we prefer its "knowns" and
stability over the unknowns of sending pages out over the internet.  I
really wish Novell would reconsider and bring back the pager gateway. 
:-)

Rochelle A. Adsitt
Pierce County Information Services


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