[ngw] dbcopy as a "complete" backup solution

Thu Apr 1 19:54:26 UTC 2010

Do you get the domain database file as well? I thought that was locked by console one and the POA agents.

>>> "Tom Miller" <TMiller at hnncsb.org> 3/31/2010 11:19 AM >>>
I'm not sure about the locking, but I use some switches to retry if the file is locked.  I still get a full copy daily.  You could always shut down the agents, run it, then start the agents again.  Once your initial robocopy is done the subsequent runs will be very short.

>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 3/31/2010 1:58 PM >>>
But does it do file locking, in "GroupWise" fashion, as dbcopy is
reputed to do.?

I'd question file (content) integrity. Or at least, worry about it.

joe a.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Tom Miller <TMiller at hnncsb.org> wrote:
> I'd use robocopy with the /mir switch.  That way you get everything and any
> files no longer on the source are removed from backup.  You can also have
> keep robocopy running and just have it check for changes every so often or
> run it in task scheduler (Windows).  I use it for a cheap backup to USB for
> my field sites, then the data is replicated to HQ and backed up to tape.  It
> does not run on Linux but it works fine on Windowz.
>
>>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 3/31/2010 1:48 PM >>>
> What's in a name, anyway?
>
> Interesting "tone" to your response.  Or am I imagining things?
>
> Point is, for those whose motives are purely technical, the "-m"
> switch is said to be for "moving" a system.  To me, that would imply,
> rather strongly, *all* information related to that PO.
>
> And, for those of us that are often called upon to do "full restores"
> (for purposes not to be read aloud), well, we need to know these
> things, you know.
>
> The example of domain was chosen for ease of discussion.  Same appear
> to hold for PO structure.
>
> I guess what I am looking for, from this list, not having found
> absolute confirmation else where, is that dbcopy is, indeed, a
> "reliable" method to backup and restore a system. *And* that they have
> done such.  I can *infer* that is so, from various gleanings, but . .
> .
>
> joe a.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Kevin Parris <KPARRIS at ed.sc.gov> wrote:
>> The name says DBcopy.  A log file is not a DB and, functionally speaking,
>> log files are irrelevant to system operations - they're only there for the
>> humans.  Alright, so you'll say it copies BLOB files and those are not DB
>> either - but they ARE operational Data forming a required Basis for normal
>> function of the system, looks like they are DB after all.
>>
>> You're already writing scripts, so a few more lines there won't cost any
>> dollars, will they?
>>
>>
>>>>> joe Acquisto <joe.acquisto at gmail.com> 03/31/10 1:12 PM >>>
>> I've used dbcopy to move/migrate PO's, etc and have been testing a
>> linux script to auto date, tar, delete old, etc, etc.
>>
>> While admiring my handiwork, I noticed that, for domain backups, at
>> least, in looking at what dbcopy seems to by copying, it does not seem
>> to copy some folders, for example /mslocal/etal.
>>
>> I am interested in those, primarily for the contents of /msglog.
>> While I can append these folders to the tar file, by other means, I am
>> concerned that this is not a valid backup, that is can be restored, in
>> tact.
>>
>> Seems to do this even with the -m switch.  Only the "core" structure
>> appears to be there.  Is this normal?
>>
>> I tend to think one would want various logs if going a backup/restore.
>>
>> Yes, no money can be spent on this effort.
>>
>> joe a.
>>
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