[ngw] smartphones

Tue Apr 6 04:03:55 UTC 2010

Actually, I am totally wrong, from the latest EULA for OES:

Linux Platform Deployment. You must acquire a User license for each
User. Each person who accesses or uses the Software
must have at least one user object uniquely assigned to that person and
access the Software through the user object.
Provided that You comply with the requirements in this paragraph and
elsewhere in this Agreement, You are authorized to use
an unlimited number of copies of the SUSE* Linux Enterprise Server
portion of the Software (SLES) to run OES services for
licensed OES Users. In addition, You may use an unlimited number of
copies of SLES in support of any other software product
You elect to use to service, support, secure or manage OES services for
licensed OES Users. However, the foregoing license
grants do not permit You to use SLES (or any updates thereto provided
in connection with Your OES licenses) to run any
software application or appliance that does not service, support,
secure or manage OES services. By way of example, line of
business applications and high performance computing applications do
not qualify for use with the SLES licenses granted
herein. Use of the Software deployed on the Linux platform may be on a
physical server or a virtual server environment and is
limited to use on the x86 and x86-64 architectures.

Bummer...

But to Joe's comment.. it's not that terribly expensive.... but this is
another reason I guess for an appliance model...

But one good thing is, purchasing  a SLES license does allow you to run
as many virtual copies as you want on a single server...so that's at
least helpful...
So if I have say 3 servers in a VMware farm, I can purchase 3 instances
of SLES and run as many SLES guests as I want on those 3 servers.

I guess I should stick to the technical stuff! :)

Matt

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>>> On 4/5/2010 at 11:55 PM, in message
<y2ubdc473351004052055q471811cdk65c0fb9786f1ab99 at mail.gmail.com>,
Danita Zanre
<dzanre.ngwlist at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the technicality here Matt is that you get SLES 10
entitlement with
> GW8, and not SLES 11 - there is still a lot of talk around it, but
for what
> we know right now, GW entitlement doesn't cover it.
> 
> Danita
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Matt Weisberg <matt at weisberg.net>
wrote:
> 
>>
>> That's downright silly.. you get SLES entitlement with GroupWise,
you
>> get Mobilty with GroupWise, but ONLY for mobility, you have to
purchase
>> SLES?
>>
>> Also, I thought that OES customers are entitled to run SLES for
other
>> purposes?  I thought you could basically load as much SLES as you
>> wanted.  I know many MLA customers that definitely are under that
>> impression.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
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>> Matt Weisberg
>> Weisberg Consulting, Inc.
>> matt at weisberg.net 
>> www.weisberg.net 
>> ofc. 248.685.1970
>> cell 248.705.1950
>> fax 248.769.5963
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> On 4/5/2010 at 11:41 PM, in message
>> <t2u859ece291004052041u3fcb4b44ra264c4d0162f0468 at mail.gmail.com>,
>> Joseph Marton
>> <jmmarton at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>>
>>
http://www.novell.com/communities/node/11255/mobility-technical-preview-techn

>>
>> > ical-details
>> >
>> > "SLES 11 License. This has been a frequently asked question. In
>> > general, you must have a valid license of SLES 11 in order to run
>> this
>> > technology preview as well as when the product actually ships.
This
>> > license entitlement is not currently part of any GroupWise buying
>> > program * including NOWS.
>> >
>> > There is really only one way, currently, to get a license. You
must
>> > purchase it. We are exploring a few alternatives, but nothing to
>> > announce or discuss just yet.
>> >
>> > In addition, there are some who may believe that their OES
license
>> > gives them rights to use SLES 11 for DataSync. As far as I can
>> confirm
>> > with Product Management, this is not true. Mobility is not a
>> workload
>> > that qualifies as an OES workload and therefore is not covered by
>> the
>> > OES license. Sorry."
>> >
>> > I don't like it, but still surely it's cheaper to buy a single
SLES
>> > subscription than it is to purchase a Windows Server license plus
>> CALs
>> > for all users, even with crazy cheap Microsoft academic pricing.
>> And
>> > I would imagine it's also cheaper than purchasing NotifyLink
>> licenses
>> > for everyone.
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Matt Weisberg
<matt at weisberg.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does the SLES entitlement that comes with GroupWise cover usage
of
>> the
>> > mobility pack?  I would be shocked if it did not...
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:00 PM, John Evans wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dave might be in the same boat as some of us (his statement, "I
>> cannot
>> > purchase any other software but I have groupwise on a school
sla.").
>> I think
>> > the additional cost (even though modest) of the SLES 11
requirement
>> is going
>> > to hurt adoption of the Mobility Pack.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> "James Taylor" <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com> 4/5/2010 6:23
PM
>> >>>
>> >>> GMS is being phased out and will not work with a lot of current
>> phones.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is the software you probably heard about.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.novell.com/promo/data_synchronizer.html 
>> >>>
>> >>> It is the replacement for GMS and should work with all new
>> smartphones, with
>> > exception of Blackberry.
>> >>>
>> >>> -jt
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> James Taylor
>> >>> The East Cobb Group, Inc.
>> >>> 678-697-9420
>> >>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com 
>> >>> http://www.eastcobbgroup.com 
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> "Dave Moon" <dmoon at peru.k12.in.us> 4/5/2010  06:09 PM >>>
>> >>> I was recently in a meeting that talked about new software for
>> syncing
>> > groupwise and active sync phones.
>> >>>
>> >>> My boss is talking about getting new smartphones instead of the
>> blackberrys
>> > we have.
>> >>>
>> >>> I cannot purchase any other software but I have groupwise on a
>> school sla.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am looking for any suggestions.
>> >>>
>> >>> Should I just setup a gms system and do it that way.
>> >>>
>> >>> dave
>> >>>
>> >>> Dave Moon A+
>> >>> Peru Community Schools
>> >>> 401 N. Broadway
>> >>> Peru, IN 46970
>> >>> 765-473-3081
>> >>> fax 765-472-5129
>> >>>
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