[ngw] GroupWise 7.03 on NetWare, Windows 2003/2008

Paul Caron CARONP at mmc.org
Thu Apr 8 15:02:02 UTC 2010


The source server during the OS migration will not have the POA running, so I max up the threads with the DBCOPY utility.  My intention for the Thursday is exclusively the GW upgrade.  I would stage a dbcopy on Saturday during the day, with the POA up.  Then on Monday evening, starting at 6pm, change the IP address for the POA, shut it down, start the dbcopy process from the new windows server with threads cranked up.
 


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From: "Gregg A. Hinchman" <Gregg at HinchmanConsulting.com>
To:<ngw at ngwlist.com>
Date: 4/8/2010 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [ngw] GroupWise 7.03 on NetWare, Windows 2003/2008
So if your moving data and you stated the data was 60GB or more -how do you propose to get that done in 1 evening?  Even using Beyond Compare 3, and doing the initial copies days/weeks in advance, it will still take a while to do the final copy of po data.  Unless you mean your starting Thursday evening and hoping to finish up by the weekend.  
 
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From: Paul Caron<CARONP at mmc.org>
To:ngw at ngwlist.com 
Date: 4/8/2010 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [ngw] GroupWise 7.03 on NetWare, Windows 2003/2008
We've opted to go with a Thursday evening of GroupWise upgrades for a given server, followed up by a Monday/Tuesday hardware migration to Win 2008.  We're going to test the upgrade scenario with both a windows 2003 box and a NetWare 6.5 box and then migrate the data from the NetWare server to a windows 2008 server.  Once we're comfortable with the code, we'll schedule the upgrades/migrations.
Yeah, I'm not willing to risk running that code on Windows 2008.  Plus it's no longer supported any ways, so if I have to install the software, it might as well be the newest stuff.
 
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From: "Jon Dustin" <jdustin at usm.maine.edu>
To:<ngw at ngwlist.com>
Date: 4/7/2010 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ngw] GroupWise 7.03 on NetWare, Windows 2003/2008
>>> On 4/7/2010 at 10:09 AM, in message <4BBC996F.D50 : 157 : 56656>, "Paul Caron"
<CARONP at mmc.org> wrote:
> I am looking to get my GroupWise servers off of NetWare first (moving them to 
> VM's running Windows 2003), then upgrade to GroupWise 8.  Hit a snag, I 
> think. 
>  
> We're just on the verge of rolling out 2008 VM's and find that GroupWise 
> 7.03 is not supported on Windows 2008.  Anyone got that scenario?  Is it 
> running ok for you?  
>  
> I'd rather not combine relocating my POAs to a Windows 2008 VM and upgrade 
> it to GroupWise 8 at the same.  I like to take these steps one at a time.  My 
> POAs are also a bit bulky - 70-150 Gig, so time becomes a factor.  

Even though the GW7 -> GW8 upgrade is relatively painless, I suspect you would like to upgrade backend/frontend at the same time, which might be a few too many changes for one weekend.

By "GW7 not supported on WIN2008", does this mean the executables do not even RUN? Or just that the installer does not work? IF you were adventurous, you MIGHT be able to manually install the GW7 EXE files on WIN2008, and run for a few weeks during a transition period.

However, I have ZERO experience running this way, as we have decided to run our GW systems on Linux (OES2). It just "seems" plausible...

Good luck Paul!

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Jon Dustin - Network Specialist
University of Southern Maine
Portland, ME  207-780-4152


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