[ngw] next release of GW

Brett McKeachnie MCKEACBR at uvu.edu
Wed Apr 14 14:16:28 UTC 2010

Question is: If some innovative company were to build this, would anyone
buy it...or would everyone have already moved to Exchange?

>>> On 4/14/2010 at 7:56 AM, "Aldo Zanoni" <Aldo at omni-ts.com> wrote:
> In addition to the relatively expensive Microsoft Entourage support
> through Microsoft Office 2008 Professional (Web Services Edition),
> Snow Leopard, you don't need to buy anything for integration.  
> I'm not a Mac officianado, but in our Riva compatibility testing, we
> have tested the new Snow Leopard native integration with Exchange
> it's comprehensive and transparent.  Very easy to configure the
> Mac Mail, Address Book and iCal apps to communicate with Exchange
> through Exchange Web Services (also used for Outlook Web Access). 
> that means for Omni is that Riva provideds full CRM integration to
> Snow Leopard client who uses Exchange.  
> For GroupWise to be able to compete in the Mac space, it needs to
> provide access to the native Snow Leopard apps.  Snow Leopard does
> using Exchange Web Services.  Hey, maybe an innovative company could
> build an interface through GroupWise WebAccess that could provide
> mobility and access for other email platforms using WebAccess as the
> conduit?   
> Aldo
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> "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication."  Leonardo da Vinci    
>>>> Matt Weisberg <matt at weisberg.net> 2010/04/14 7:39 AM >>>
> Microsoft is quite committed to the Mac, here from the Mactopia
> "Second, along with the new edition of Office 2008, the team is hard
> work on the next version of Office for Mac which will launch in time
> the 2010 Holiday season. This next version includes a new
> Outlook for Mac. Outlook for Mac is being built from the ground up as
> Mac OS X application using Cocoa. It will have a new database that
> delivers a reliable, high performance, and integrated experience
> Mac OS X.  Users will be able to back-up with Time Machine and
> email, calendar and contacts with Spotlight. Additionally, Outlook
> Mac and the rest of Office will include Information Rights
> which helps keep sensitive information for only audiences that you
> intend. IRM compatibility will make it possible for Mac users to
> and receive sensitive information using Microsoft Office tools.  This
> just a taste of things to come in Outlook for Mac, we’ll share more
> the coming months."
> I'll refrain from any more comments before I put my foot in my mouth
> :)
> Matt
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Randy Grein wrote:
>> There was a notes client for Mac - about 15 years ago. Don't know
> about now. Microsoft has been pretty good about supporting Macs on
> exchange - not identical, but it comes with Office for mac. Of
> Microsoft is the biggest Apple developer...
>> Randy Grein
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Alan Bens wrote:
>>> As I read through all the post for the Next release, I wonder
> I've never dealt with Exchange or Lotus notes, are there Linux/Mac
> clients for them?  Do those companies try and take care of all the
> different platforms? 
>>> As far as web access I agree that if Novell doesn't stabilize WA
> make it full feature like the fat client then it will be a mute
> but if they do, it will at least save me hours of having to deploy
> fat clients, making sure that they work with all of the software on
> system, or does it work with MS newest OS disaster.  
>>> Yes Novell has a long way to go with the WA and the clients, but
> it works with IE, FF, Safari, Chrome, then I believe they are making
> step forward before the competition. 
>>> One mans opinion.
>>> Al
>>> >>> On 4/13/2010 at 11:38 AM, "Steve Bogdanski"
> <bogdansk at cvm.msu.edu> wrote:
>>> Shouldn't be too difficult if they use HTML5 in the future for
> WebAccess.  This is exactly where Gmail is moving and why Google is
> discontinuing Gears (how offline caching is currently done).
>>> As for Mac/Linux support, I almost feel that Novell should focus
> more allowing integration with OS X's (and Linux) native apps, like
> iMail.  Usually seems that Linux and Mac users already have their
> favorite apps for email, calendaring, contacts and would be happier
> those could properly integrate with GroupWise rather to have to
> use/learn another client.
>>> -Steve
>>> >>> On 4/13/2010 at 11:29 AM, "Steve Singhose"
<ssinghose at wccg.net>
> wrote:
>>> That functionality could be sufficient if done well.
>>> Steve.
>>> >>> Joseph Marton <jmmarton at gmail.com> 4/13/2010 08:07 >>>
>>> Not true.  Look at Gmail.  I can cache several days of e-mail
> a
>>> browser (and it doesn't have to be Chrome) so that I can access my
>>> mailbox even if I'm online.  It can be done.  No reason Novell
> can't
>>> add this to WebAccess as well.
>>> Joe
>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Steve Singhose
> <ssinghose at wccg.net> wrote:
>>> > Biggest pain I can think of for web clients is lack of caching
> remote mode.  Users without connectivity are not supported.
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