[ngw] next release of GW

Neil Stansbury neil.stansbury at redbacksystems.com
Fri Apr 16 12:38:57 UTC 2010


"Using GroupWise Web Services - Part 1"

http://www.open-horizons.net/downloads/download-document/02-index-&-information-spring-2010

It's listed here in the index, but I'm not sure if it's available for 
download:


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Neil Stansbury
www.RedbackSystems.com
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On 16/04/2010 13:32, Gert wrote:
> Neil,
>
> What is the title of the article? I do a Find for PHP en SOAP that 
> does not give any result...
>
> Gert
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> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Neil Stansbury 
> <neil.stansbury at redbacksystems.com 
> <mailto:neil.stansbury at redbacksystems.com>> wrote:
>
>     It is listed in the index, but not sure it's available for
>     download - it
>     might only be available to subscribers.  The issue is here::
>     http://www.open-horizons.net/ohm-spring-2010
>
>
>     That link Gert pointed out is another good resource along with
>     this one
>     too:
>     http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/GroupWise_Web_Service_%28SOAP%29
>
>     The basis of their PHP client is there for download as well.
>
>
>     N
>
>     Neil Stansbury
>     www.RedbackSystems.com <http://www.RedbackSystems.com>
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>
>     On 16/04/2010 03:24, Robert Horgan wrote:
>     > Hi Niel,
>     >
>     > Can't find the article you were referring to in Open Horizons.
>      Perhaps you can provide a link?
>     > thanks
>     > Robert
>     >
>     >
>     >>>> On 15-Apr-10 at 3:24 AM, Neil
>     Stansbury<neil.stansbury at redbacksystems.com
>     <mailto:neil.stansbury at redbacksystems.com>>  wrote:
>     >>>>
>     > Yes, and attempting for far too long - as Yoda would say, less
>     trying more doing!
>     >
>     >
>     > We did use web access for Liaison when it was released
>     originally at Brainshare '05, I was quite pleased with it, but Ken
>     I think persuaded me that SOAP was the path of enlightenment.
>     >
>     > I said at the time I though they were nuts for choosing SOAP
>     over something lighter like XML-RPC.  In retrospect he was quite
>     right, unless you are a Yahoo or GMail, XML-RPC or JSON just
>     aren't needed for performance, and with WSDL 2.0 it's almost
>     academic anyway.
>     >
>     > After that began our long and painful conversion to SOAP!  I'm
>     very glad we did though, and it showed some massive design flaws,
>     and created some very cool new opportunities using WSDL endpoints
>     instead, and it's more than adequate performance wise.
>     >
>     > Sometimes you really don't understand the problem until you're
>     up to your waist trying to solve it.  By then you either sink or
>     buy some bigger waders.  Though frankly the next time I have a
>     "vision about the future of collaboration" I will either go and
>     see a doctor or a priest.
>     >
>     > There is an article on using PHP with SOAP and GroupWise in the
>     spring edition of the Open Horizons magazine if anyone is interested.
>     >
>     >
>     > I think Steve Bogdanski's earlier comment about using HTML 5 for
>     web access is quite right. Though there will/are all sorts of
>     restrictions using the HTML 5 offline features etc, the question
>     will be the extent that Microsoft and IE fully support HTML 5 vs
>     pushing Silverlight as the de-facto rich-web-client-toolkit.
>     >
>     >
>     > For new web access, I vote for no Java or Tomcat, and PHP + SOAP
>     directly into the POA or ANOther Agent.  Then we could also get
>     ATOM feeds and iCal views published very easily, as well as
>     implementing a single interface.  Hopefully Novell engineering
>     will be told to consume their own interfaces too, that way if we
>     have a bug - so do they.
>     >
>     >
>     > I'll try and post some pics up of Liaison running on Snow
>     Leopard with the Growl integration working too.
>     >
>     >
>     > N
>     > Neil Stansburywww.RedbackSystems.com
>     <http://Stansburywww.RedbackSystems.com>
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>     > On 14/04/2010 15:23, Simon Shilton wrote:
>     >
>     > Aldo
>     >
>     > Isn't that what Neil at Redback has been attempting to do for a
>     couple of years with the Mozilla engine?
>     >
>     > oops, or were you fishing for an opportunity ;-)
>     >
>     > Simon
>     >
>     >
>     >>>> On 14 April 2010 at 14:56, in
>     message<4BC57546020000A80009BD5C at mail.omni-ts.com
>     <mailto:4BC57546020000A80009BD5C at mail.omni-ts.com>>  (
>     mailto:4BC57546020000A80009BD5C at mail.omni-ts.com
>     <mailto:4BC57546020000A80009BD5C at mail.omni-ts.com> ), "Aldo
>     Zanoni"<Aldo at omni-ts.com <mailto:Aldo at omni-ts.com>>  (
>     mailto:Aldo at omni-ts.com <mailto:Aldo at omni-ts.com> ) wrote:
>     >>>>
>     > Hey, maybe an innovative company could build an interface
>     through GroupWise WebAccess that could provide mobility and access
>     for other email platforms using WebAccess as the conduit?
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