[ngw] ESXI 3.5 vs ESXi 4.0 (multi posted)

[Steve Bogdanski]

I am pretty sure that Novell work on optimizing NW for Xen
paravirtualization.  Also you don't want to include the volumes you
share as part of the VM and would instead want them as separate raw
storage.  
 
-Steve

>>> On 4/24/2010 at 12:06 PM, Joseph Marton <jmmarton at gmail.com>
wrote:

Probably would work ok using Xen & paravirtualization, but yet I
wouldn't be surprised to see fully virtualized NetWare have terrible
performance.

Joe

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Keith Larson <KLarson at k12group.net>
wrote:
> I would caution anyone against Virtualize NetWare.  It can be done
and I
> have a few small utility type servers virtualized, but I tried
virtualizing
> a full server with shared folder and users home directories and
nearly had a
> mutiny because of performance.  I also tried virtualizing a server
that was
> nothing more than the Symantec parent server for several hundred
> workstations.  All that they would do is get signature updates from
it,
> nothing else.  That didn't go well either.  It had been moved back to
a
> physical server and it working well.  We haven't gone to EPP yet we
are
> still at Corporate Edition for SAV.
>
> OES2SP1/SLES10SP2 has been fine virtualized with several hundred
users
> hitting an NSS volume.
>
>
>
> Keith Larson
> Franklin Computer Services - K12 Group
> (614) 561-4887
> klarson at k12group.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> "zzz" <zzz at minneapolis.edu> 4/23/2010 10:53 PM >>>
> Greetings,
> If you are worried about VMWARE perfomance on older hardware,
possibly
> do some testing and monitor memory, CPU and NIC utiiliztion.  Should
be
> present in the local VM client install.
>
> Not sure on the novell end, (I do have a couple of OES2 in virtual,
> including GW8 1000 user server) but  I have plenty of production
WINDOZE
> W2K8 64 bit guest VMs running on HP DL380 G5 ESX 3.5 cluster on SAN
with
> no major performance problems.
> NIC utilization has not been an issue at my site with the onboard HP
> NICs.
>
> However, if you do have the chance, "VMWARE 4"  would be the
preferred
> option to move to.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
> Thank you
>
> Dana
>
>
>>>> Danita Zanre <dzanre.ngwlist at gmail.com> 4/23/2010 4:42:06 PM >>>
> I of course can use whatever I want because I'm not a big company, so
I
> use
> ESXi 3.5 on a my 32 bit server, and it works very well.  On my 64bit
> server,
> I'm worried that ESXi 4.0 will not work, but I need 64 bit VMs
(thanks
> Novell <heehee>), so I'm running Server 2.0 on that for the 64 bit
VMs.
> So,
> my take is that unless you need to actually have 64 bit VMs for
> something,
> 3.5 has been perfectly fine for my needs, which aren't as great as
> many
> large companies, but greater than most of my small company clients.
>
> Danita
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Joe Acquisto
> <joe.acquisto at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Certainly there is enough experience and options on these lists to
> comment.
>>
>> Wondering if the "real world" performance difference, if any,
> between
>> ESXi 3.5 (32 bit) and 4.0 (64 bit) is worth having to go hunt up an
>> "approved" 64 bit machine?
>>
>> Guest performance, of primary interest.
>>
>> I have several older servers that accept (and seem to run) 3.5,
but,
>> sigh, none that accept an install of 4.0.
>>
>> joea
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