[ngw] FIXED - Primary Domain Issues After 2012 Upgrade

Lawrence Kearney lawrence.kearney at earthlink.net
Mon Sep 24 17:33:09 UTC 2012


BTW ... our issues were with GW8 so I doubt its a native 2012 issue ...


-- lawrence


-----Original Message-----
>From: JOSHUA PITLICK <JOSHUA.PITLICK at EEOC.GOV>
>Sent: Sep 24, 2012 12:25 PM
>To: NGWList <ngw at ngwlist.com>
>Subject: Re: [ngw] FIXED - Primary Domain Issues After 2012 Upgrade
>
>We completed the offline top down rebuild yesterday and our system is looking healthy.  My colleague had observed that the wphost.db files on, at least some, of our POs had become quite bloated.  I suspect that is where the admin message looping started.
>
> 
>Joshua Pitlick
>Senior Network Engineer
>Office of Information Technology
>U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
>>>> "JOSHUA PITLICK" <JOSHUA.PITLICK at EEOC.GOV> 9/20/2012 8:11 AM >>>
>Already tried that.  At this point we have effectively disabled access to making admin changes.  We accept the risk of losing some changes.  We are set for doing an offline top down rebuild starting tomorrow night.  I will report the outcome on Monday.
>
>
>Joshua Pitlick
>Senior Network Engineer
>Office of Information Technology
>U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
>>>> Gert <gert at gwcheck.com> 9/20/2012 1:57 AM >>>
>Tried renaming wpcsin wpcsout and mslocal dir's to .old and restart MTA?
>The longer you wAit fhe more changes may not be coming through leaving work
>of this week undone perhaps needs to be redone.
>
>Gert
>
>On Wednesday, September 19, 2012, JOSHUA PITLICK wrote:
>
>> We're planning on bringing down the whole system this weekend and doing a
>> top down rebuild pending CIO approval.  It is just difficult because we
>> have 62 domains spread across 52 different geographical locations and 4
>> time zones.
>>
>> We have a ticket open with NTS, but they are stumped.
>>
>>
>> Joshua Pitlick
>> Senior Network Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
>> >>> Gert <gert at gwcheck.com <javascript:;>> 9/19/2012 12:50 PM >>>
>> Check the primary 1st, do a rebuild of it, check again. If the primary
>> looks good, I can go with Danita. It is just important to know what you
>> might lose and what you might gain.
>>
>> Does Novell NTS have anything to do with the upgrade? If so, they will be
>> looked upon what to do, no matter what the NGW List says.
>>
>> Gert
>>
>> GWCheck.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Danita Zanre <dzanre.ngwlist at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > So, if it were me, I'd shut everything down (all MTAs), backup all of my
>> > wpdomain.db files, do a top-down rebuild, rename the admin queues and
>> > start it all back up and see what happens.  Of course, before you do
>> this,
>> > make sure that the system looks "right" from the primary domain
>> > perspective (I.e., all of the users exist, etc.), because of course if
>> the
>> > primary is missing something, it will be gone from EVERYWHERE after a top
>> > down rebuild.  This is one of the reasons that I don't generally use a
>> TDR
>> > for general "maintenance".  But it sounds like you could be in a
>> situation
>> > where it's needed.  But BACKUP everything first just in case.
>> >
>> > Danita Zanre
>> > I love my job and you can too!
>> > http://www.moveoutoftheoffice.com/numis.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/19/12 6:49 AM, "JOSHUA PITLICK" <JOSHUA.PITLICK at EEOC.GOV> wrote:
>> >
>> > >No news.  We are still battling multiplying admin messages generating on
>> > >our primary.  I did discover that the e-mail volume on the primary
>> server
>> > >had been set to allow salvage.  That was not the cause, but exacerbated
>> > >the problem.
>> > >
>> > >I wouldn't worry about your upgrade to 2012.  There might be something
>> > >about our environment that is causing the problem.  I would just make
>> > >sure that you've performed a top down rebuild.  Also make sure you don't
>> > >have any pending operations and admin message flow is working
>> beforehand.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Joshua Pitlick
>> > >Senior Network Engineer
>> > >Office of Information Technology
>> > >U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
>> > >>>> Thieu Hon TRAN <k-ngwlist at thtran.de> 9/18/2012 4:58 AM >>>
>> > >Hello,
>> > >
>> > >any news on this issue? We are planning an upgrade to GW2012 this week
>> ...
>> > >
>> > >    Hon.
>> > >
>> > >JOSHUA PITLICK:
>> > >> We checked the link configuration.  We also tried overriding the links
>> > >>with the server IPs for each domain.  We now have an SR open with NTS.
>> > >>From the looks of it, the system is processing, but cannot keep up with
>> > >>all the admin messages that are being generated.  This to the point
>> that
>> > >>the volume the primary domain resides on filled up.
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone recall if there were MTA issues with the initial build of
>> > >>2012?  I recall hearing about GWIA issues, but I don't recall hearing
>> > >>anything about MTA issues.  Maybe a newer build will resolve our issue.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Joshua Pitlick
>> > >> Senior Network Engineer
>> > >> Office of Information Technology
>> > >> U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
>> > >>
>> > >>>>> Gert <gert at gwcheck.com> 9/8/2012 4:11 AM >>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >> Out of bed already?
>> > >>
>> > >> Check the links on the HTTP consoles and the link config. Otherwise
>> > >>remove
>> > >> the 1st and see.
>> > >> Gert
>> > >>
>> > >> GWCheck.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:19 PM, JOSHUA PITLICK
>> > >><JOSHUA.PITLICK at eeoc.gov>wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I just upgraded our primary domain to GroupWise 2012 yesterday.
>> > >>>  Everything seemed ok after the initial install.
>
>
>
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>
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Lawrence Kearney
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