[ngw] Betr.: Re: OT: SLES10

Bas Penris b.penris at ettyhillesumlyceum.nl
Thu Sep 27 13:27:53 UTC 2012


Because of the changes in NSS that allows for 8TB volumes I'm guessing.
 
Regards,
 
Bas

>>> Joseph Marton <jmmarton at gmail.com> 27-09-12 14:58 >>>
Nope, in this case it actually doesn't work.

Joe

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Peter Van Lone <petervl at gmail.com> wrote:

> usually Greg " the 'claims' that ...." a manufacturer makes have to do with
> what they are willing to SUPPORT.
>
> It would not surprise me if the newest BE agents will INSTALL and RUN and
> backup SLES11/NSS - but if there are problems, can you call Symantec.
>
> If lack of support is trivial and of no matter to you - go for it.
>
> P
>
>
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> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Gregg A. Hinchman <
> Gregg at hinchmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> > Neil,
> >
> > I would want to further investigate the 'claims' that BE does not do
> > SLES11 and NSS -because that does not make sense to me. If they are
> backing
> > up SLES 10 -and NSS -then there is no reason they cannot do 11 and NSS.
> >  (Yes I mean OES and SLES11 here).  Maybe its more along the lines of
> will
> > not run on SLES11?
> >
> > Another option if you are going virtual on VMWare is VEEM. I have several
> > customers that use it to great success.
> >
> >
> >
> > Take Care.
> >
> > Gregg A. Hinchman
> > Consultant
> > Gregg at HinchmanConsulting.com
> > www.HinchmanConsulting.com
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> > 317.329.0288 Office
> > 413.254.2819 eFax
> >
> > "Courage is doing what is right."
> >
> > "Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones.
> > All systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth."  Thich
> Nhat
> > Hanh, Vietnamese monk.
> > >>>
> > From: Neil Carson<carsonn at psac-afpc.com>
> > To:ngw at ngwlist.com
> > Date: 9/26/2012 7:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ngw] OT: SLES10
> > Greg & Joe,
> >
> > Supposedly the reason we are going to sles10 oes2 is due to the fact we
> > use Backup exec 2010 now and it currently backups up our Netware NSS
> > volumes and apparently BE does not support Sles11 but does support
> sles10.
> > I have also been told that it is "easy" to upgrade from sles10 to sles11
> > etc. I have also been told at this time BE 2012 does not backup or cannot
> > backup sles11 with NSS volumes.
> >
> >
> > The powers that be are under pressure to get off (or rid of) Netware..so
> > to speak.
> >
> > This is what I have been told. :)
> >
> > Thank you for all the replies from everyone.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > >>> "Gregg A. Hinchman" <Gregg at HinchmanConsulting.com> 09/26/12 19:08 PM
> > >>>
> > Neil,
> >
> > Let me ask this. Why go with SLES10 OES2?  Why not go to the current
> OES11
> > sp1?  That is the most current offering.  Unless there is some eDirectory
> > reason, I always advise my customers that move to make the
> furthest/newest
> > leap to keep them from moving again sooner.  Just a thought.  Most of
> what
> > you will learn in the SLES10 class will transition as well.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > Take Care.
> >
> > Gregg A. Hinchman
> > Consultant
> > Gregg at HinchmanConsulting.com
> > www.HinchmanConsulting.com
> > VMWare VCP5
> > 317.329.0288 Office
> > 413.254.2819 eFax
> >
> > "Courage is doing what is right."
> >
> > "Do not be bound to any doctrine, theory or ideology, even Buddhist ones.
> > All systems of thought are guiding means, not absolute truth."  Thich
> Nhat
> > Hanh, Vietnamese monk.
> > >>>
> > From: Neil Carson<carsonn at psac-afpc.com>
> > To:ngw at ngwlist.com
> > Date: 9/26/2012 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ngw] OT: SLES10
> > Thank you Joe.
> >
> > I am scheduled to go on a 5 day (in house) SLES10 OES2 course in mid
> > October and I was just looking to get a head start
> > The in house training is 'suppose' to emphasize on OES2.
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Neil
> >
> > >>> Joseph Marton <jmmarton at gmail.com> 26/09/2012 5:12 PM >>>
> > Something like that will help you with the Linux part of OES but won't
> > really cover the OES specific services.  We've got a couple of online
> > courses in October, each is just a half day, that will help bridge your
> > NetWare skills over to OES.  You might want to look into them.
> >
> > http://register.novell.com/registernow/#65
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Neil Carson <carsonn at psac-afpc.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Jim.
> > >
> > > The reason I ask is that I have a book .... openSUSE Unleashed 10.3
> > > I was just wondering if it would be best to read it or should I get a
> > book
> > > specifically on SLES10 OES2 ?
> > >
> > > I am very new to Linux and I was just wondering if openSUSE 10 is
> really
> > > that different (from a Linux point of view) than SLES10 ?
> > >
> > > Thank you again to all
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > >>> "Jim Gosney" <jgosney at genesco.com> 26/09/2012 4:40 PM >>>
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > OpenSUSE is the version of SuSE Linux that is opensource but it is not
> > > supported by anyone other than the Linux Community.
> > >
> > > SLED/SLES is the version of OpenSUSE that Novell has taken, fully
> > > tested, added their own personality to, and fully support.  As a
> general
> > > rule, the SLED/SLES version will run a few generations behind OpenSUSE.
> > > For example, right now SLED/SLES is at version 11.2 while OpenSUSE is
> at
> > > 12.2
> > >
> > > OES is the optional Netware "emulator" that is ran as a service in
> > > SLED/SLES and provides all the Netware services you are familiar with.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > >>> "Karyn Victory" <kvictory at novell.com> 9/26/2012 3:32 PM >>>
> > > Typo...For OES11 SP1, it should state "sits on" not "based on'
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Karyn W. Victory
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > Collaboration Lead
> > > Novell North America
> > > 513-418-1175
> > > ( tel:5134181175)  (mobile)
> > > kvictory at novell.com
> > > www.novell.com
> > >
> > > Sent from my GroupWise enabled iOS device. Please pardon any spelling
> > > mistakes.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> "Karyn Victory" <kvictory at novell.com> 9/26/2012 4:30 PM >>>
> > > OES2 SP3 sits on top of SLES10 SP4
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.novell.com/documentation/oes2/oes_implement_lx/data/welcome-2-oes2.html
> > >
> > > OES11 SP1 is the latest version which is based on SLES11 SP1 but it is
> > > 64 bit
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.novell.com/documentation/oes11/oes_implement_lx/data/welcome-2-oes2.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Karyn W. Victory
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > Collaboration Lead
> > > Novell North America
> > > 513-418-1175
> > > ( tel:5134181175)  (mobile)
> > > kvictory at novell.com
> > > www.novell.com
> > >
> > > Sent from my GroupWise enabled iOS device. Please pardon any spelling
> > > mistakes.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> "Neil Carson" <carsonn at psac-afpc.com> 9/26/2012 4:22 PM >>>
> > > Thank you for the replies.
> > >
> > > Apparently we will be going to SLES10 OES2
> > >
> > > lack of a better description (or knowledge on my part) ...OES2 sits on
> > > top of SLES10 (or runs within SLES10) (so to speak) ..correct ?
> > >
> > > Thank you again to all.
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > >>> Gert <gert at gwcheck.com> 26/09/2012 4:06 PM >>>
> > > OES is the replacement for NetWare.
> > > SLES is pure Linux.
> > > SLES is LESS than OES IMO ...
> > >
> > > Gert
> > >
> > > GWCheck.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Joseph Acquisto
> > > <joea at j4computers.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I dunno about "based on", but I hear they are similar.
> > > >
> > > > However, if you need NetWare services (file/print/login, etc) then
> > > you
> > > > need OES, not SLES.
> > > >
> > > > joe a.
> > > >
> > > > >>> "Neil Carson" <carsonn at psac-afpc.com> 09/26/12 3:50 PM >>>
> > > > Hello (again),
> > > >
> > > > It looks like we will be moving from Netware to SLES10 both for file
> > > > services and to host GW.
> > > >
> > > > My question is... Is SLES10 'based on "openSUSE 10' Linux?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Neil
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