[ngw] GW 2014 to MIME or not to MIME

Daniel Wells Daniel.Wells at mhtn.com
Mon Jul 21 14:27:18 UTC 2014


It turns out any time a graphic is embedded in an email, the Mime.822 is created, i believe for message compatibility reasons.  There is a logo graphic in our standard signature, so when the signature is used, the graphic causes the Mime.822 file creation, thus making the email appear larger than what is sent.



Daniel Wells AIA, VCP
Senior Associate | IT Coordinator
 MHTN Architects, Inc.
Direct: 801.326.3215 | www.mhtn.com
 vision made real
 >>> "Ian Young" <IYoung at graphic.plc.uk> 7/18/2014 6:55 AM >>>
Hi,

I believe the mime.822 contains all the information received by the
SMTP server, between the DATA command and the closing period. Having it
enables you to look at the headers of an email but it does have the
disadvantage of making all incoming emails twice as big. This can be a
problem if you regularly receive large emails, as we do. It would be
nice if GW just saved the headers of the email, not the whole thing.

Cheers

Ian


Ian Young
IT Manager
Extension 364
DDI - 01363 778764

>>> gf at fcp.at 18/07/2014 08:22 >>>
Hi!

My understanding is that the mime.822 attachment is the mime
representation of the complete mail used in smtp transfers. This part is
basically base64 coded adding approx. 35% to the size. A 5MB mail
including the 7MB mime representation will be approx. 12MB.

If you send an internal 1MB attachment, the sent item is aprrox. 1MB.
Just the binary file.
If you receive from an external address an 1MB attachment, the mail is
approx. 2,4MB with
a 1MB binary attachment
and
a 1,4MB mime.822 representation of the whole mail. (Can be viewed in
the message source tab)

However, this mime.822 part is missing on my original sent items. I
only see it for incoming stuff or anything which went through smtp.
Nothing to do with adding a signature. But i only us a simple personal
signature without images and no global signature.

Georg

>>> On 17.07.2014 at 18:30, in message < 53C7A5B5.8F17.008A.3 at mhtn.com
>, "Daniel
Wells" < Daniel.Wells at mhtn.com > wrote:
> I had a user approach me and ask why when they added a signature to
an email 
> with attachments, the size listed in the sent items is almost
doubled.
> 
> I started looking and testing. I sent two emails with a 5.01 MB PDF 
> attachment, one with our standard signature one without. The
receiving 
> client listed both as 7 MB (the attachment listed as 6.9 MB).
> 
> Within the GroupWise client the sent items were listed differently,
without 
> the signature it is shown as 5.02 MB with the signature it is 11.9
MB.
> 
> The item sent without the signature has the message, text.htm and the

> attached file listed. The message with the signature has the message,

> text.htm, Mime.822, Image.gif and the attachment.
> 
> I understand the Image.gif is part of the signature. What is it about
the 
> signature that adds the Mime.822 file, but it is not there on the
email 
> without the signature?
> 
> Thanks in advance?
> 
> 
> 
> Daniel Wells AIA, VCP
> Senior Associate | IT Coordinator
> MHTN Architects, Inc.
> Direct: 801.326.3215 | www.mhtn.com 
> vision made real
> 
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