[ngw] Antw: GW in Vm environment

Joseph Marton jmmarton at gmail.com
Tue Jul 4 15:56:17 UTC 2017


I would not use independent disks at all.

Joe

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Gregg A. Hinchman <
Gregg at hinchmanconsulting.com> wrote:

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> I assume you mean they do not want to do Independent/Persistent right
> Joe?  They would not want to do Dependent.
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> From: Joseph Marton<jmmarton at gmail.com>
> To:NGWList<ngw at ngwlist.com>
> Date: 7/4/2017 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [ngw] Antw: GW in Vm environment
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> You probably don't want to do independent disks.  Those disks aren't
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> included in snapshots, and snapshots are useful for many things such as
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> preparing for upgrades or even for regular backups.  Keep in mind I work
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> for Veeam, but regardless, there are various backup solutions which use
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> VMware snapshots.  That shouldn't be a concern for things such as GW or
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> eDir as there are ways to address these applications, such as shutting down
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> the POA before taking the snapshot and firing it back up as soon as the
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> snapshot is taken.  I actually wrote about this in a Cool Solutions article
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> a little ways back.
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> https://www.novell.com/communities/coolsolutions/
> veeam-adds-oes-2015-support/
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> Joe
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> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Thys de Beer <Thys at nwpg.gov.za> wrote:
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> > HI Thomas,
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> > Thanx ... so you say no Independent? , not for OS nor for gw data
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> > disk?... not planning to restore VM, but one never knows right, but i
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> > can't think it will be days before i restore if i ever do?.. but will
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> > this always be an issue even few hours donw the line
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> > That's why i wondered because i see that for  Independant - Persistent
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> > disk changes are immediate and written to disk, and they are not
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> > effected by snaphosts?..
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> > I want to have this right, don't want to hear afterwards...oooooo shoot
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> > you should have done this or that on the disks...
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> > 10% on the read cache .. so on my 1.2tb po data disk i do 120gb?...
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> > Kind Regards,
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> > Thys de Beer
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> > >>> "Thomas Stimper" <tstimper at nmedv.de> 2017/07/04 12:40 PM >>>
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> > Hi Thys,
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> > >1. Disks should i do "Independent" / "Independent -Persistent" or
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> > "Independent - Non-Persistent" .. sorry about this i just want to be
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> > sure .. heard horrible things about snaphosts and edir
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> > do not do any Independent, but i would not put e eDir replica on this
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> > servers if you plan to restore the VM from days ago.
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> > >2. Then also it talks about  "Sharing"?  ... "no=sharing" or
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> > "multi-writer" or " unspecified"  this is all new.. remember this is
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> > a vSAN all flash setup for storage..if it matters....
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> > No sharing, if you do not want to build a OES cluster whithin Vmware
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> > >3. "Virtual flash read Cache"? .. do i enable? and how big do i make
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> > this? 4Gb 8GB 10 or nothing?..
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> > yes, enable, i  configure 10% of the actual data on the VMdisk.
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> > Best regards
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> > Thomas
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> > >>> "Thys de Beer" <Thys at nwpg.gov.za> 04.07.2017 09:58 >>>
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> > HI All,
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> > Ok we have a new vce/dell vxrail setup, vsan the whole thing .. so now
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> > my first time for GW and oes/edir for that matter .. when i try to
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> > create here are some new questions (not had this before on my small
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> > esxi
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> > hosts before ..what do i select?for now gw2012, will upgrade to gw2014
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> > once on new solution
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> > A few questions on VM creations... vCentre  vxrails ..... and this an
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> > All flash solution,,
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> > For my normal OES/Linux boxes .. i know filr specify some these
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> > following questions but for my sles/oes/gw boxes what do i do?
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> > 1. Disks should i do "Independent" / "Independent -Persistent" or
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> > "Independent - Non-Persistent" .. sorry about this i just want to be
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> > sure .. heard horrible things about snaphosts and edir
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> >
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> > 2. Then also it talks about  "Sharing"?  ... "no=sharing" or
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> > "multi-writer" or " unspecified"  this is all new.. remember this is
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> > in
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> > a vSAN all flash setup for storage..if it matters....
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> >
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> > 3. "Virtual flash read Cache"? .. do i enable? and how big do i make
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> > this? 4Gb 8GB 10 or nothing?..
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> > Kind Regards,
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> > Thys de Beer
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> > GITO: Infrastructure
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